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Sheila S. Walker: African Diaspora-How Do You Figure?
How [could] the Europeans construct the Americas without African labor? It's just not true we are led to believe that the trans-Atlantic slave trade was an involuntary migration of unskilled labor, well that's not true either. If you are about to build a whole continent-I mean "rebuild" because somebody had already built it, you are not going to recruit people based on their lack of knowledge, you want people who have the kinds of skill and expertise you need to create this new society. So you kill off the Native Americans who mind the gold, but you want the gold, what do you do? You go to the place the British call the Gold Coast to get Africans who know how to mine gold. And they become the miners of Mexico, Peru, and Columbia, Brazil suzette
gardner: What is the importance of recognizing Africa
in the Americas? Why should Africans in the Americans find it important
to identify Africa in the Americas? suzette
gardner: Yes, it is significant. But, what should this
knowledge do for these Africans in the Americas now, and what should
this knowledge do for them in the future? If you look at the scientific research done on those skeletal remains of those [African] people who lived in New York in the 1700s-although New York allegedly had no slavery, but did! Those people were worked to death. Their skeleton shows that they were worked to death to build the wealth of the Americas, so it seems only reasonable that there should be recognition of that role and therefore some compensation. Other people have been compensated for doing much less. Africans built the Americas. African descendants should be compensated for our ancestors' role in the building of the Americas. And its all of the Americas, there is only one country in the Americas where is no organized group of African descendants and that is El Salvador. suzette
gardner: So you are saying that your work should be a
tool for them to claim their heritage? To have a sense of the African Diaspora is to have a sense of global belonging and global entitlement. My sense of identity is that I am an African Diasporan with a US passport. When I go to Brazil, I don't expect to be treated as a tourist, I expect to be treated as a sister or a cousin. I expect to be taken home and it happens! If I said, "Oh, I am from the United States" and that is my whole identity, why would anyone want to share their culture with me? And with one of those disdainful attitudes saying, "Oh, they are poor people." They might be materially poor, but we have so much to learn from them in terms of cultural richness, the everyday presence of their Africanity. I went to Brazil looking for them, but what I found was "us". And I just find more and more us. I found us in Paraguay, Bolivia in every place! So we need to understand that the world is ours, this "I am an oppressed minority" give me a break! I am not a minority first of all. Having a sense of Africans being the first on the planet, and thinking about what Africa has given to the world, the first contributions was people! That's pretty great. We have these self esteem problems that are based on ignorance and on brain washing. Carter G. Woodson talked in the 1930s about the Mis-Education of the Negro. Well, it is now up to us to educate ourselves properly and to educate everybody else too, so that they know who we are and what they owe to us. Dubois talked about the gifts of black folks, well, we have given lots of gifts, we have been extremely generous, its time for us to get a little feedback at this point, a little reciprocity. suzette
gardner: What about blacks becoming more active in their
communities, wherever they are located, in Jamaica, Brazil and within
the American political system to get these rights that are due to
them? Now you cant think that someone who would calculate you as a fraction of a human being has similar interest to yours. That's the basis of where we are now. Some people have privileges as a result of the role that their ancestors played in the slave trade and other people are at a disadvantage because the role of their ancestors. We need to look at the current inequalities as having been created by the trans-Atlantic slave trade not as a result of any deficiency. Why were Africans capture-able? Europeans had guns, Africans didn't. It had nothing to do with intelligence obviously, since many of our best and brightest got to help Europe create this society in the Americas. And so we need to have that kind of perspective to understand, how we got to where we are, who did what to whom. We need to stop talking about slaves. I don't believe in slaves. I believe that Europeans tried to de-humanize Africans, but they were not successful. How can you say that the people who created the only classical musical form in the United States were dehumanized? It makes no sense. In the 1950s when the U.S. was doing its big diplomatic thrust, whom did they send? Jazz musicians! They didn't send blue grass singers, they sent jazz musicians to show American culture, doesn't that suggest that a lot of the characterization of what makes this culture unique is a result of our presence? Well, we need to know that.
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